Sherwood Forester

Issue 5 – June 2004

 

 

 

 

Editorial comment

 

It seems only yesterday since we launched the web site and our online magazine.  Here we are again with our fifth issue of the Sherwood Forester.

Our cover and two of our articles come from the follow up film from Richard Greene “Sword of Sherwood Forest”.  Our first article comes from the pen of Steve Winders, whilst the second from Anna.  Both look to try to understand why it was not a success.  The cover artwork also comes from Anna.  An excellent choice of images.

We have finally come up with proposed plans for the “Anniversary” celebrations for next year.  Thank you everyone, we had some excellent suggestions.

In this Issue

 

Why was ‘Sword of Sherwood Forest’ not successful?

Steve Winders' comes up with his thoughts on the film spawned from ‘The Adventures of Robin Hood’.

 

What was wrong with the ‘Sword of Sherwood Forest’?

Continuing the theme, Anna comes up with her own views on ‘Sword of Sherwood Forest’. 

 

Episode Review – Highland Fling

Lucy Carpenter continues her series of episode reviews, which concentrates on the four episodes that feature the Scottish Outlaw, Duncan of Stoneykirk.

 

Trivia

Also from the ‘Sword of Sherwood Forest’.

Anniversary Celebrations

Here it is, the proposed programme.

 

Letters (Emails) To The Editors

 

 

 

 

Why was the ‘Sword of Sherwood Forest’ not successful?

By Steve Winders

 

 

‘The Sword of Sherwood Forest’ was an entertaining and well-paced film. Although the actors who played Robin’s band and the Sheriff of Nottingham were not those who had played the roles in the television series, they were nevertheless good experienced actors who were well suited to their roles. Of course they were not the actors that fans of Richard Greene’s ‘Robin Hood’ had grown to love and for fans of the series this was definitely a negative point. Apart from this, my only complaint about the characters was the presentation of Marian as a typical vulnerable ‘Hammer’ heroine, with all the emphasis on sex appeal. I much preferred the depiction of Marian as an intelligent and confident heroine adopted by the television series.

 

The film was well directed by Terence Fisher, who was one of Hammer Films’ ablest directors and featured excellent performances by Richard Pasco, Oliver Reed and Peter Cushing as the villains. So apart from the fact that the principal characters were played by different actors there is no obvious reason why the film did not enjoy the success that was hoped for.

 

I think we must look beyond the actual film itself for possible reasons for its comparative failure. In 1961 a film programme in the cinema consisted of two films, a main feature and a supporting film. I did not see ‘The Sword of Sherwood Forest’ in the cinema, but vaguely recall seeing it advertised in the local newspaper as a second feature at one of my town’s cinemas. I cannot recall what film it was paired with and I do not know whether it had an initial release as a main feature, but if my memory is correct then the nature of its release might account for its lack of success. There are many reasons why films succeed and fail quite apart from whether they are any good or not.

 

As recently as twenty years ago, America’s big summer releases did not reach the U.K. until Christmas and so in a wet summer when competition was limited, a family film that might otherwise have enjoyed modest success could actually make a lot of money. A case in point was ‘Warlords of Atlantis’ released in 1978 when the most popular holiday weeks in July and August were quite wet in England. ‘Warlords of Atlantis’ benefited from a lack of competition but there are many films that suffer from an ill-timed release. I do not know what other films came out at the same time as ‘The Sword of Sherwood Forest’, but a well-publicised family film from one of the big studios could easily have damaged its takings at the box office.

 

A final possible reason for the film’s lukewarm reception may have been its timing in relation to the television series. Hammer Films made a lot of films based on popular television and radio series, but most of these were rushed out to coincide with the series’ peak of popularity. ‘The Adventures of Robin Hood’ had been phenomenally popular, but by 1960 the series had been cancelled. Whether the programme’s popularity had significantly diminished is unclear, but it was certainly no longer appearing in the top twenty programme charts as it had in its early days. It is quite possible that viewers had become complacent about the series, having had too much of a good thing! There were two films based on the popular ‘Doctor Who’ television series made in the mid sixties. The first was a major success and spawned a sequel, but the second received disappointing box office returns, even though it is widely regarded as a much better film. When the first film came out, the television programme was extremely popular, but by the time the second film was released the series was losing viewers. Of course ‘Doctor Who’ survived on television and subsequently recovered in popularity, but the poor performance of the film was undoubtedly due to its decline on television.

 

While the above suggestions are pure speculation, I do think that the change of actors in ‘The Sword of Sherwood Forest had some bearing on the film’s lack of success. I strongly suspect that Hammer Films deliberately employed a different supporting cast to avoid having to pay royalties to Sapphire Films or ITC as owners of the series. They were always famous for their low budgets! As a legendary hero Robin Hood cannot be copyrighted and so as long as the film did not take too much from the series then they would not have to pay anything for rights. In fact Hammer had made a previous film about Robin in 1954 (Men of Sherwood Forest) and would make another in 1968 (A Challenge for Robin Hood). After the series ended I imagine that Richard Greene was free to play any role he was offered including Robin Hood, without his former paymasters being able to raise any objection, but for Hammer to engage other actors from the series to reprise their original roles would presumably have given ITC strong grounds for objection. They could rightly have claimed that Hammer were making a film of their version of Robin Hood without authorisation. (A change of actor for Friar Tuck was of course necessary anyway, as Alexander Gauge had died in 1960).

 

Steve Winders 

 

 

WHAT WAS WRONG WITH SWORD OF SHERWOOD FOREST?

 

(Some observations of my own, and of other viewers I have talked to)

 

First, what was right about “Sword of Sherwood Forest”: it looked more realistic than “The Adventures”- it was in colour, the outdoor scenes were filmed on location, and the indoor ones - in convincing, solid looking interiors.  But… Am I the only viewer who missed the all-purpose scenery, and the “trees on wheels”?  I think they gave the series a theatrical feel - that slightly surreal quality, suggesting a fairy tale setting, or a fantasy world.

 

I imagined that “Sword of Sherwood Forest” would be a continuation of “The Adventures”: several new episodes, or perhaps a happy ending to the series – when King Richard returns, and the outlaws receive their pardon.  But it turned out to be a completely different story…  So, for me the lack of continuity was the biggest disappointment.  I just could not accept that Robin met Marian after he had been in Sherwood for several years; in “The Adventures”, as in many other versions, they are childhood friends.  (Steve mentions in his article that the story probably had to be changed, so that Hammer Studios would not have to pay royalties to ITC).

 

For everyone else, the greatest disappointment was the cast.  By the time the film was made, some of the original actors from “The Adventures” were not available, for various reasons.  And it was cheaper for Hammer Studios to employ their own contract actors.   Perhaps if the film had been made earlier, just after the series ended…

 

But the familiar characters did not just look different in “Sword of Sherwood Forest” - they had different personalities as well.  Everyone disliked Sarah Branch as Marian; we were used to Marian who was equally comfortable as the lady of Fitzwalter manor, as she was with a bow and arrows in Sherwood, dressed in Lincoln green.  And “our” Friar Tuck was intelligent, quick thinking (and quick acting), when the situation demanded it.  The “new” Little John was not the impulsive but loyal “gentle giant” we remembered.  I thought that he was almost too good-looking, and too clever…

 

I have heard the view that by the time “Sword of Sherwood Forest” was made, Richard Greene was too old to play Robin Hood.  If we were to compare “Sword of Sherwood Forest” with the Errol Flynn version, then the answer to that would have to be - yes.  But in terms of the Robin Hood myth, certainly not - in the traditional ballads Robin spent most of his life in Sherwood.   So he did not have to be always young – he could have been an “old warrior” character, a confident leader with experience and wisdom, showing signs of weariness at times.  This is how Richard Greene portrayed him in the later episodes of “The Adventures”.  His Robin Hood character was not really different in “Sword of Sherwood Forest”, although I believe that it would have made the film more interesting if the age aspect had been emphasised as part of the story.

 

So many missed opportunities… In the end, “Sword of Sherwood Forest” turned out to be neither one thing nor the other; it was obviously not a continuation of “The Adventures”, and it was not credible as a completely new version of the Robin Hood story, independent of the series - how could it be, with the same actor playing Robin Hood?  Stephen Knight described the film as “lacklustre” in one of his books, and the viewers generally agree that it was not memorable – a pale imitation of “The Adventures”, despite a good story, and good acting.  Why?  I believe that there was one very important reason – the absence of the original blacklisted scriptwriters, with their intelligent (and often crazy) humour, and their first-hand experience of coercion and betrayal.  Without them, the Robin Hood story could never be the same again…  (A. F.)

 

 

Episode Review – Highland Fling

 

The Cast

 

Hugh McDermott – Duncan of Stoneykirk                 

Hilary Paterson – Meg

Andrew Faulds – Davy

Graham Steward – Malcolm

Duncan McIntryre – King William

Jack McKay – Treasurer

Raymond Ray  - Hermit

Paul Eddington – Baron Mornay

Victor Wolfe – Landlord                                       

 

 

Screenplay – Leighton Reynolds

Director – Terry Bishop

 

 

THE HIGHLANDER YOU MAY RECALL

WAS ONCE THE SUBJECT OF OUR TALE

AND NOW WITH DIRK AND KILT AND ALL

HE’S BACK ON ROBIN’S TRAIL

 

 

 

 

 

He’s back, Duncan of Stoneykirk, the wild, uncanny Scotsman.  The Highland Fling is not just a Scottish dance, it refers to Robin’s and Friar Tuck’s trek to the Scottish Highlands.  It’s been two years since Duncan visited Sherwood Forest, causing havoc and chaos with his volatile and ostentatious personality. Robin Hood and his men survived all that Duncan handed them, but in the end Duncan made peace with Robin, and he did profit from Duncan’s visit, the outlaws weren’t sorry to see him head back to Scotland.

 

The Baron Mornay, an emissary of King Richard, comes to Nottingham in search of Robin Hood.  The King is in need of money for the Crusades and King William the Lion of Scotland has agreed to pay back a debt of 500 gold crowns that was owed to King Richard’s father Henry II.  Richard wants Robin to travel to Scotland to meet with King William and see that the money is safely returned to England.

 

Robin, disguised as a nobleman, and with his friend and confidante Friar Tuck make the journey to Scotland, a trip that takes them through the dangerous “Scottish Highlands”.  While traveling through the Scottish Higlands, Robin and Friar Tuck are set upon by Scottish Outlaws, Robin’s identity is revealed and the Scottish Outlaws are excited to meet the venerable English Outlaw.  Robin and Friar spend a night in the Scottish Outlaws camp, and Duncan of Stoneykirk is anxious to know the true nature of Robin’s visit to Scotland.  In the still of the night while everyone is sleeping Duncan sneaks a look at Robin’s documents from King Richard and is now eager to be the recipient of some of the 500 gold crowns.

 

Robin meets with King William and the Treasurer and takes receipt of the money.  Unbeknownst to Robin and Friar Tuck the King has no intention of allowing the money to leave Scotland.  There is an amusing exchange between Robin and the King when the King is warning Robin about Scottish outlaws; he asks Robin if he has problems with outlaws in England, to which Robin replies, “I’ve never had any problems with them.”  Robin and Friar leave with the money, but are attacked by the King’s soldiers disguised as outlaws; in a twist the real “Scottish Outlaws” arrive on the scene and come to Robin’s and Friar’s aid.  Robin realizes that Duncan and his men didn’t appear by accident, but Robin being the clever person that he is has the ability to outsmart Duncan and to safely return to England with the 500 gold crowns.

 

Duncan of Stoneykirk is a fun character, despite all his flaws.  He does not have the leadership qualities or the honor and fairness of our favorite English Outlaw.  Stark contrast of how Duncan and Robin run their camps: Duncan’s camp is chaotic, with Duncan giving the orders, and a female outlaw, Meg, “an outlaw lass”, Duncan’s lass.  Robin’s camp is orderly and well run, one for all and all for one (I know, it sounds like another familiar story). Duncan is more of a dictator – a grandiose personality – where Robin’s fair and just and everyone has a vote on issues. Duncan doesn’t garner any input, he just gives orders and expects loyalty in return.  Robin gives and receives respect and loyalty.  Where Duncan is gaudy and gauche, Robin is genial and gallant.  Robin invests in people, Duncan invests in himself.

 

Robin may have left Scotland in a hurry, but he hasn’t seen the last of Duncan, he will make another uninvited appearance in Sherwood in the next episode - “The Bagpipper”; and so the saga continues……

 

Lucy Carpenter

 

 

Trivia

 

This month’s trivia follows the “Sword of Sherwood Forest” theme.  Found on eBay, cinema lobby posters (cards).

 

 

 

Anniversary Celebrations

 

Can we start by first thanking everybody for responding to the survey and putting forward their suggestions.  They were many and varied.  However, having taken everybody’s views into account, we have come up with the following proposed programme for celebrating the 50th Anniversary of that very first transmission back in September 1955.

 

Planned for the weekend commencing Friday, 23rd September 2005.  Come and join us in Nottingham (actual location to be confirmed).

 

Friday

 

2pm

Gather for coffee, introductions.  Group photograph. 

Afternoon

Sherwood Forest

Evening

Meal followed by Quiz and Slideshow

 

 

Saturday

 

Day

Tours of Nottingham and Castle

Evening

Medieval Banquet.  Speakers intermingled with viewing of selected episodes.

 

 

Sunday

 

Day

Visit to site of Nettlefold Studios and nearby locations.

 

We are obviously looking to invite special guests to the Banquet Evening and any help that other “outlaws” in achieving this would be greatly appreciated.

 

The Sunday visit is also dependent on research still to be carried out re locations.  Once again we are looking for help from other “outlaws” to assist with this.  However, should this not come off, we have a number of other suggestions to fill this day.

                 

Likely costs to those attending: -

 

2 nights accommodation

Coach travel to Sherwood Forest on Friday

Friday evening meal

Banquet

Coach to Nottingham/Nettlefold for Sunday.

Mid-day meal arrangements on Friday/Saturday/Sunday

 

Obviously these details need to be finalised quite quickly so that those attending can budget accordingly.  Can all those who plan to attend email either Anna or Mike at trhas@hotmail.com.  All costs will be kept to a minimum, so if you wish us to also make accommodation arrangements then please also indicate this.

 

 

Letters (Emails) To The Editors

 

The following is a selection of emails we have recently received.  Thank you for the kind comments.

 

Love all your hard work – keep it up.

Ralph Cooper

 

 

Congratulations - What a GREAT job you are doing.

Have been a HUGE fan of the Adventures of Robin Hood since boyhood.

Consider Richard Greene to be the only GENUINE Robin Hood.

Just love the music and strong social justice themes.

Gavan Podbury

 

 

I loved your site and thought it was well written and designed.

Lynne Wilson

 

 

Have found your web site over the last year and have been really impressed.

I have been a huge fan of The Adventures of Robin Hood since the late fifties and have the photographic evidence of attending various village fetes as the man himself.

I have never forgotten the series and remember the last repeats in the London area around 1971 and then nothing. I remember my sister telling me of Robin Hood being shown in Zambia in 1976-77 and she describes “ The Fire” as one episode she watched.

Charlie Laing

 

 

I will always have a place in my heart for "Robin Hood". Memories of coming home from school, getting changed & eating my tea while watching "Robin Hood".  Years later I was at Keele University studying law. During a lecture on the "Law of Contract" there was a case study on a man who sold a car which did not belong to him, & he claimed he was the actor Richard Greene. The tutor, as an aside, said "whoever Richard Greene may be", I was soon able to give my own lecture to the tutor on just who he was.

Peter Kinsey

 

 

Greetings to Sherwood Forest from Central Minnesota USA!

I don't recall if I watched the series during the original airing, or during the period just after 1958. Regardless, I and my friends enjoyed it and to us, Richard Greene is the definitive Robin (although Errol Flynn's Robin is hard to beat, too!). The theme song has been bouncing through my long-term memory all these years - I can't recall watching an episode of the TV show in 40 years. I just bought a 2-DVD set of 12 episodes distributed by the Platinum Disc Corporation, which led me to search the Internet.

Anyway, best of luck with your site. Sincerely,

Duane Otremba


 

That’s all folks

 

Our next issue is out on the 31st August 2004.  If you have any items of interest you wish included in the magazine please do not hesitate to contact us at trhas@hotmail.com. 

 

Anna and Mike